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that. >> it doesn't explain why he didn't stand behind susan rice. if that was really his view. he's choosing the fight over hagel, in part i'm sure because he gave up on susan rice. why didn't he do it for her? >> it's possible he never was for susan the way others were. there really was a split in that white house. >> it looked like it had touched a personal cord with him when she was being criticized. may be separate from whether he wanted her for the job. i think the attitude is what's driving this on hagel. and i think his comfort level, his knowledge that if he's going to deal with defense budget cuts, he wants a republican in there. i'm not sure as andrea mitchell has pointed out that having somebody who seems to have such a difficult relationship with republicans is the best one to lead that fight. >> well, no, it is sort of the idea in what's in practice seemed to be two different things. watching republican reaction here. so jeff sessions, senator from alabama, says he's going to put a hold on jack lew. lindsey graham says he's going to put a hold on john brennan. are th
on like it was going to go to this woman, a current ambassador to the united nation, susan rice. susan rice is a long-time friend and ally of the president whose name was floated very early on as a favorite for secretary of state. ultimately, though, before anybody was nominated for the position, the white house sort of backed down from the prospect of nominating her. they allowed her to take her name out of the running when republicans attacked her for the grave, grave crime of saying something wrong on sunday morning talk shows. something that by the way turned out to be mostly correct. but never mind, they criticized her anyway, and the white house did not back her up in the face of that criticism, and her name was removed from consideration. now, faced with another high profile nominee who has attracted loud republican nomination, this time it appears the white house is not backing down. this time president obama has officially nominated chuck hagel to be secretary of defense as of today. interestingly, another potential nominee for a big high profile national security job for this
. interesting the president chose this political fight over chuck hagel. declined to have it over susan rice. what was your view of her treatment in this whole process? >> i think it was not handled well. one of the problems with ambassador rice and chuck hagel, these signals come out saying this is who we are thinking about and you are left out there to dangle for weeks. well, if this is who you are going to nominate you nominate them and let's get on with the process. >> you feel like the president hung her out to dry? >> in both the susan rice case and chuck hagel case, if they were sure that is who they were going to nominate, i think it should have been done promptly but all these sort of test nominations that they send out there, i think just cause the media to naturally focus on it and potential opponents of that nomination just pile on. >> outgoing secretary of state hillary clinton, she is facing pressure to testify on the benghazi matter. do you think that benghazi episode is a blot on her record as secretary of state? do you think it will affect her political future? >> i don't th
-term churn gets under way now. though it looked for a time like the president might nominate susan rice to be his next secretary of state, when that didn't happen, this latest wave of nominees appear to have something in common. and as nbc's andrea mitchell reports tonight, people are noticing. >> reporter: it is the white house photo that could be called all the president's men. adviser valerie jarrett is there, we're told, hidden behind the guys. as president obama filled his top cabinet post with nominees named jack and chuck and john -- >> it's time for me to move on. >> reporter: -- it was like "mad men" goes to washington, except peggy leaving ruth marcus. >> whatever white guy becomes chief of staff, i think it's actually kind of interesting that there are two women who are deputy chiefs of staff and no one has talked about them as possibilities at all. >> reporter: one of the two deputies, nancy ann deparle, a harvard lawyer, is leaving next week. epa administrator, lisa jackson. is quitting. so is labor secretary, hilda solis. disappointing some women who helped reelect the pre
women. we had two supreme court picks that were women. the optics. the susan rice debacle i guess you could call it tainted everything that came after that. i think it tainted poor john kerry's nomination because people were an assuming he was the second choice. i think the whole susan rice spectacle is hanging over and looming over all the other picks. >> you make good points though, joy. so david, the white house's response to all this. all these accusations that they're not putting in a diverse group of people. how's that going? >> well alex, what joy just said, there's only a few picks. that's what jay carnie the white house spokesman said the other day. he also ticked through some of the women who are still running departments and going to stay on in their jobs. just to push back a little bit, there have been four picks now if you count the treasury secretary announced this week in jack lew. it's likely we'll hear next week that inside the white house to replace jack lew chief of staff is probably dennis mcdonagh. not only did the first four picks that the president pick were men
to go, and this is the mainstream policy. >> john: before we go to break do we expect a fight with susan rice. he must have known that this would have come with chuck hagel. >> yes, joe mentioned this. this will drive a wedge in the republican party. there is not only a realist perspective in the republican party in terms of foreign policy and a neo-con one but there is a growing isolationist in the republican party and this fracture is about republican coalition. in that regard i think there is an opportunity for a fight. at the end of the day this appeals to sort of i think in many respects president obama's favorite constituency, which is the beltway media. this idea bipartisanship and this notion of having a republican sort of daddy figure in some respects filling this role is very appeal to go part of the beltway media. so i think this is--to the extent that this is going to be a fight, i think it's one that he's looking forward to. >> john: if hagel is the daddy figure then the nominee is the cheney figure. the c.i.a. boss is the same as the old c.i.a. boss coming up next. [ male a
in the nomination over secretary hagel as opposed to susan rice. i think steve would agree to this, one of the things that should be done in the hearings for the nomination is give much more clarity about where this administration is going. it is all fine and good to talk about the limits of power. everybody should understand our limits to power. that can be an excuse for not exercising power. i think that debate can be useful when put on the table when talking about senator hagel. >> hear the table, gary schmitt, the co-director for the -- and steve clemons the editor at large @ "the atlantic." we will get your comments in just a moment. i want to point out a " that is getting a lot of attention. i mentioned david miller who has a piece in this morning in "the washington news." he says this -- who would like to comment on that? i think the suggestion that senator hagel is anti- semetic, i have no idea. what is troubling about is not necessarily the jewish lobby -- the most troubling part is the fact that he goes on to say that's "i am a u.s. senator, i am not a senator from israel." t
of state. the president is considering a new job for ambassador to the united nations susan rice. may become the next national security advisor if all the appointments are confirmed. we will have carried out an almost total revamping of his national security team. >> confident that judge will be an outstanding secretary of defense and brennan will be an outstanding director of the central intelligence agency. may understand that we are only successful because of the folks up and down the line in these respective institutions. the folks on the ground who are oftentimes putting their lives at risk for us. and oftentimes removed from washington and politics. lou: some members of the party expressing consternation about his election because of controversial statements on the israeli reluctance. among the reason for that concern and in some cases outright opposition. seven of the 12 republican members of the armed services committee expressing some opposition with at least three senators already saying they will vote no. senator david fisher saying, i will be a no-vote and on the floor. so
't the case, why wouldn't he have stuck with susan rice, for example. >> i think first with susan it's not sure whether he wanted john kerry or susan to be the secretary of state. he had been through a long tough campaign. as soon as the campaign was over the republicans decideed to manufacture another crisis on the fiscal cliff. i think the president is determined to appoint the people he feels are best, and the republicans are determined at every turn to oppose them no matter what the merits. >> jennifer: i completely agree with you. it will be battle after battle after battle. folks out there if you're battle weary you better put on your armor, it's coming. if jack lou becomes treasury secretary. >> i don't think that will stop him at all. >> jennifer: i agree. that means his chief of staff will be open. ron klain and denis tell bus that. >> i've worked with ron. he's extraordinaryily well-qualified. he has been the chief of staff to the vice president gore two administrations, vice president gore and vice president biden and he is trusted by the president. denis i don't know as w
only 10% more diverse than george bush was. >> the susan rice pick messed up the rollout of this completely. >> condi rice was asked this question about you a reporter when she was secretary of state about the lack of diversity in the state department. and she says don't judge me as i enter the institution, but as i leave the institution. that's a great point. it's about how these people serve the country. >> i'm a very patient person. i'm happy to judge people as they are leaving as well. all right. we have to take a short break. if you feel like you work in a toxic environment but don't know what to do about it -- how is that for a segue? ken linder written a new book called "your killer emotions." best way to navigate your way is to keep emotions in check. we'll talk to him, up next. geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7. oh dear, i got a flat tire. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it's good... good for me. what do you think
who have left, carol browner. >> we're off the boards there. >> susan rice cabinet level. >> unclear what she's going to do. >> key adviser to the president already. there's different ways you can crunch the numbers. >> i know, i'm trying. >> there are critically important women in the president's life who advise him every single day. >> you didn't mention michelle, sasha or malia. >> also not in the photo. >> they were in hawaii, in fairness to them. >> yes, because the whole point of the photo was to show the president was hard at work on the issue and the bigger question who let this photo go through. >> i feel bad for dan pfeiffer caught eating an apple. >> dan don't eat in the picture next time. we'll split it 50/50. >>> you know her from the popular group tlc, one of my favorite songs "no scrubs" come on, abbie. >> "waterfall." >> she's recovered from a brain tumor and revitalized her career, she'll join us, up next, back in just a minute. >> thank you, guys, how are you? ♪ don't go chasing waterfalls ♪ please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you're used to ♪ >>> yo
. but he had options. >> bill: he also could have said to susan rice, you know, susan, i understand. we may not win this battle but you're the best person i think for that job and apparently that's what he did think and i'm going to make this fight. it is important to me to have you there. >> it also makes it more important now than ever that we embrace your idea of replacing hilda solis as secretary of labor with jennifer granholm. >> bill: there you go. started right here. i even talked to jennifer. i'm going to do her show tonight on current tv. >> you should say something. >> bill: yeah. maybe i should call her madam secretary. but i haven't even asked her whether she would accept the job that i've now given her. >> just details. >> bill: charles is in dallas, texas. hi charles. >> caller: how's it going, bill? >> bill: good. what's up? >> caller: i think this issue is a lot bigger than just obama and his appointments. if you look at the united states senate, for example, how many african-americans are there? >> bill: one. happens to be a republican. sadly. >> caller: so i think it's ju
, but -- >> all appointments did not move the way they wanted. they department get susan rice and put michelle in at defense. some wanted. you talk about the photograph, but let me share another photo. this one, this was the original photo published in the times taken december 27th. the white house countered with the second photo. the same for the president. you have -- you can spot them here. >> where the girls are. >> this is the oval office. as you point out and talked to the white house, they are defensive here. >> they are. they are defensive about it. it's dleer they don't like the pictures that don't show a lot of women. they argue that women have a lot of input and they are important. by the way, janet napolitano runs security and you have susan rice at the united nations. it's not as if this is a wasteland without women in this d main station. my sources say that they haven't filled the commerce job. then you put someone in the situation of say a woman is appointed to fill commerce, the question is asked, did she get that because she was a woman? >> or is she the best qualified. >> i
this comes after susan rice's nomination was arguably pulled. people believe that the president wanted susan rice to be secretary of state, and she was making a very public effort to court senators up on capitol hill for that nomination. she withdrew her name herself, but it was believed that the president wanted her to be that nominee, at first. she wasn't. and this nominee, chuc chuck hailing was under fire from the start. it doesn't seem that the president wanted to pull this potential nomination and is ready for this fight. he will likely have the votes, jon. and it may be a bumpy ride to get there, but he'll likely get there. and how much political capitol it takes to get there is really the question on both of these nominations. at the end of the day, the presidents usually get who they want to have in their cab tphefplt it's cabinet. it's a rare event when they don't. it does happen up here in washington but for the most part they can usually get the votes. jon: even more rare when a nominee is a former senator. how about john bren an also withdrew his name from consideration to be ci
and overlooked for that position and susan rice now out of the running. the question, do we have enough bench of women. the cabinet positions, it's long hours, my intern went over to the white house and works 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. and for a woman would children, how do we work them so women can do them. >> megyn: and talking about this on the air yesterday, i'm a relatively young mother and i would not do a job that would require 12 and 16 hours a day regularly. i'd never see my kid. women make that trade off and men, too, but women. and however, ben, look at the women in the cabinet. hillary clinton in her 60's and janet napolitano i think she's not married and you know, you can find women who could do the job who aren't necessarily young mothers, it's not like there's an absence of qualified available women out there. so why isn't he finding them? >> well, i think he's finding people he's comfortable with. and that's the problem when you make laws based on political gain. and the president did this to make minority like him and did this so women would like mitt romney better than his binder fill
-qaeda references out of the talking points given susan rice three weeks before the election. we don't know anything. i don't want to hold up but i will until we get to the bottom of benghazi. in case the administration is listening to this program you are not going forward on these nominations until you share with the congress with really happened in benghazi. >> shannon: do you have support across the aisle at all for the proposition? i'm sure there are democrats who would also like answers to that question. >> i would be shocked if the democratic party would not at least join in the effort to find out what the president did during the attack, who did change the talking points. why are we now you back to a pre9/11 model of where the fbi can't talk to the cia. i hope they are interested in that. >> shannon: have you been given any timeline for the investigations wrapping up? >> you have to remember that brennan is also one of the people that we suspect of leaking classified information about the bin laden raid, the underwear bomber and cyber attacks against iran by us and israel. that is the subjec
this is that president obama obviously got a lot of flack over susan rice and decided that was not a battle he was willing to fight. and so when she said, i don't want any more -- any more to do with this, he said okay. i will accept. i am not going to nominate you. chuck hagel, he decided he is going to go to the mat on the this one. i think he wins. >> absolutely. how does he not win? you know, it's him reaching across the aisle. he is doing exactly what he has been attacked every day, district attorney in and day out for the last four years, you know, by republicans for claiming that he is not doing, which, of course, you know which is reaching out, working with republicans, taking one of their own, you know, and not one much these country club old school republicans that i think really make up the vast majority of folks that colin powell talked about with his initial response with the tapping of the party. somebody who i think is respected but has some very conservative views, too. >> chuck hagel secretary of defense. at a time does speak -- and when we come
these to be pointed out. >> that is like crying wolf when it is not there just first the whole cause. when susan rice did not good to be secretary of state democrats said that is racism, because she is black. >> and the woman question we have up black boy named tracy was secretary of state and other republicans. >> as we did. yes we did. >> you pointed out something that he was too polite to say. he said during the campaign committee has every right to put those examples on because when that happened many people took exception to it. it was more than a dog whistle comments were anyone knew what to deny that happened is to make his case for him. lou: so if you argue as to menu just proved the case for him, and therefore all the damfool would argue about an objective standard of truth to what the value or racists confirms. that's pretty complicated and we thank you for sharing with us. thank you so much. the key for being with us. good night from new york. ♪
we learn from each other. i think it's great to have. i'm hopeful he'll make up for it. susan rice would have been secretary of state if the republicans hadn't attacked her -- >> hold on. i've been hearing that all week. i heard an interview, i was screaming at the television saying, people don't look when they're looking for the best qualified -- that is a bunch of crap. if you go to any h.r., anyone who's looking for any type of person to fill a job, they talk about everything, hair color, eye color, i need a black woman for this. we need a black man for that. and for an african-american, the first black president of the united states not to understand the optics of this is ridiculous. i think he's getting off the hook. he should have the most diverse staff of anyone ever. >> i'm with you on more diversity. if this was a republican, people on the left -- >> they would eat their lunch. it's embarrassing. >> but maybe this is because he knows this is white people's last hoorah. by 2045, white people will be in the majority. >> i know you're joking. but this has perturbed me for a l
'm not sure i heard anyone on the hill praising the choice, potential choice of susan rice for secretary of state as a woman. i mean, they were criticizing her for her positions and other things. i think at the end of the day, it's optically not good. you know, obviously, for this president. he has sort of a strong record, but probably more important are those people around him. that white house photograph was very real and that's how it is on a day-to-day basis. with a couple of exceptions. but that's how senator obama and president obama has sort of always been. always surrounded by usually men. >> congressman, last word. this is also true of people of color. the president, obviously, we have a holder at the justice department. we have kirk at the u.s. trade rep, but are there enough minorities and should it matter to us? should we be discussing this? >> it shouldn't matter because diversity must be our promise and not our problem. and, you know, when you have first man of color in the white house, it becomes even more significant. but i believe the president truly believes in diversit
. >> that was a guy? >> she was a woman. then have you susan rice and the whole benghazi thing. then you have secretary of state hillary clinton which both sides of the political aisle have been pleased with her job, but then there was the benghazi thing. >> so you are saying he has done his women's business and now he is on to men? that makes me sick. >> okay. i am just giving you an example. you are the queen of examples. liz, are you surprised how much they chased the female vote and now he talked on the side like something you would toss aside perhaps a package of delicious goods? >> i was kind of surprised. >> moving right along, listen, i'm all for women getting the powers they deserve. >> boo! boo! >> but i want them to get it on their own merits and because of their ideas and not for being women. >> this is what happens when you stop talking about americans and start dividing it up by orientation gender and skin color. it bites back, the party is thinking it is kind of in a way hurting from it. >> do you agree with everything i just said? >> every word of it, greg. as far as his prom
is responsible to make decision about security? >> andrea: so it's not hillary clinton's or susan rice's or president obama. nobody's? >> kimberly: the ambassador. >> bob: i said she said it was her responsibility. >> dana: the point is -- >> bob: it might have been the responsibility of somebody in the embassy not telling the ambassador go to benghazi. it's unsafe. >> andrea: so now we blame foreign service agent agents ine embassy. >> bob: you blame everybody else. >> andrea: i have a hard time. buying what you -- >> bob: it was all her fault. >> andrea: i'm not picking up what you are putting down. she is the secretary of state. in charge of the diplomatic affairs. >> bob: how many embassies -- >> andrea: they ignored the warnings. >> bob: how many embassies -- >> andrea: a lot. that was in grave danger. coming up, the king of tabloid tv jerry springer says the show is a true picture of reality and more democratic than politics today. so does he have a point? or a perfect example of american culture in decline? that's ahead. on "the five." ♪ ♪ uhh, it's next month, actually... e
wanted to nominate susan rice. i won't beat him up on this. he hates women, trying to take away the -- he said that romney caused cancer in one woman. the attacks were absurd. >> bob: there are 3,500 political appointees in the administration. in that neighborhood. i would bet you, i asked them for this but i didn't get an answer because i'm last in line to get answers. i bet there are more women appointees than any other administration. >> kimberly: talk about this. can i get a full screen up. women in the cabinet. look at this. obama, nine through his first term. george w. bush, ten. clinton, 17. oh, clinton is the winner again. >> andrea: why does it matter like eric said, it's about who is qualified. >> eric: that is unfair. put the full screen back up. put the full screen back up. nine through the first term. so if he, if valerie jarret leaves and soliz leaves and replace it with two more females. >> dana: elaine chow served for the entire eight years as the secretary of labor. >> bob: that is an unusual situation. >> kimberly: guys, this is just through the first term. >> andrea: do
he will have a fight over chuck hagel. already pulled susan rice. so jack lew has worked with everybody on the hill, republicans and democrats, that's where the came from-spend the early part of his career. everybody knows him, a touch negotiator -- a tough negotiator. >> shepard: a very big player with a lot of work to do. you talk about what's coming up in march with the debt ceiling fight. the president already said he is not negotiating. >> of course and the republicans have drawn a line in the sand. so we have the starting point. now we have to see if either side is going to meet in the third medical. circumstances will force them to do something because if it goes up to the last second the last time they fought this battle, the marked tanked and that there will have to be some compromise. >> shepard: we get these red alerts on the wire services. the pentagon just come out talking about how they would cut in case they did come up to this debt limit, because it's going to affect everyone in the country, and for that matter, around the world. >> and if you're a busines
, a fight not only with republicans but with some democrats. a bit of a controversy. we thought on the susan rice nomination for secretary of state. he pulled the name back. the president signaling i want my team. i want my guys and willing to take bruises along the way and he thinks he will get them in the end. >> ashleigh, if you down size the pentagon politically, and that's what the president is going to do, it's not a bad idea the republicans think to have the republican at the helm because they're called soft on defense, et cetera, et cetera. when you're down sizing, have a republican lead the way. >> it makes for easier politics in some respects. let's switch to mr. brennan. this is another interesting choice and a lot of people have a lot of good things to say about john brenna. however, gler yeah, the n nomination process is problematic. the cv sounds terrific. when's the problem? >> i actually think that brennan will have a much easier time than chuck hagel. i think there are questions about how he felt about enhanced interrogation techniques as we call them, otherwise known as tor
nations, susan rice, go on tv in the days after attack and say it was a response to a video, not a terror attack? republican senator lindsay graham says -- quote -- "i do not believe we should confirm anyone as director of the c.i.a. until our questions are answered. like who changed the ambassador susan rice's talking points and deleted the references to al qaeda. my support for a delay in confirmation is not directed at mr. brennan but is an unfortunate yet necessary action to get information from this administration." senator graham says he's been told various accounts about who changed the talking points for ambassador rice. he's been told it was the director of national intelligence, the f.b.i., the c.i.a. but says -- quote -- "this ever-changing story should be resolved." back to you guys in new york. brian, do you think he'll be out for a year? >>brian: we're going to find out today, if he flies to pensacola, florida, in the owner's plane to find out if the l.c.l. and a.c.l. is torn. we'll see. there is a lot of swelling. but i heard that you will personally go over to his house an
, already been in government and vetted 300 times, it becomes a problem. look at susan rice. i think the fact the republicans are aiming at one of their own, at chuck hagel, is really an astonishing sort of symbol of where we're at in terms of finding bipartisanship, that that would be smacked down by the republican party. >> we were talking about this yesterday on the show, of all the people the president has nominated so far, you would think john brennan would be the most controversial. he's the one no one is talking about. >> that's right. you can look at all these candidates, hagel and lew, mainstream candidates who represent the president's positions flawlessly, are a stark contrast with the bush administration, therefore the republicans might have beef with him, but that's just not happening. we're being surprised when clearly it's part of a broader strategy to discredit the very idea of government. yes, the polls show that congress is more unpopular than head lice. >> and cockroaches. >> nickelback. >> castro still slightly more unpopular, but i think they can fix that. long t
-profile problem with our thinking that susan rice was the first choice for state. and then when she didn't get it, we didn't know if it was her or john kerry was his first choice. or whenever this has set up women was the minority. >> on chris jansing & company, chris had congressman charlie rangel on. i just want to play what he said. take a listen. >> it's as embarrassing as hell. we went through this with murit romney. and we very hard on mitt romney with women binding thing. in the second term, you could say people got to know who is around who is qualified in order to get this job. >> chris, i want to go with you, he's saying as embarrassing as hell. talking about this, we are in of the second term, and the president set the standard here in changing how diversity can play a greater role in broadening these positions. is charlie rangel to say this is as embarrassing as hell and there should be a deeper bench when coming to replace these positions? >> well, i think there's a couple ways to look at it, the statistics of the administration in terms of diversity, it's on par with what the clinto
walked away from susan rice. why does he want this fight? >> it's a great political idea on his behalf. if there's a big fight over this defense pick, it's going to be between republicans. right? republicans are in disarray on a number of issues. speaker boehner just survived a confidence vote that was a little bit dicier than we originally thought. there's a disagreeance on spending and a bunch of other issues. there's disagreements on defense. there's some new republicans who say, hey, we've got to stop this kind of knee network promilitary, pro interventionism out there. those people really like chuck hagel. there's other republicans who really hate chuck hagel. let this fight be between republicans i'm thinking is what barack obama is looking at. >> chuck hagel has managed to make people e iing jewish group rights groups. as he put it, i'm a united states senator. i'm not an israeli senator. he called a nominee for ambassador openly aggressively gay. he did apologize for that. that happened some time ago. and said he misspoke. but, perry, what do you think? how tough could this fig
had susan rice, you've had all of these way out attacks on the attorney genric holder. are they trying this with hagel? why is it no matter what this president nominates, they find a reason to fight it. >> i think this is the next front, you know. they didn't do so well on the fiscal cliff. now they've got to find another partisan opening. i think it's a partisan attack. i think it's designed to help them raise money to strengthen their party's position from the mainstream position of the president. >> governor, when you look at john mccane, for example, john mccain says he has concerns about hagel's positions on national security issues today. but in 2006, when he was plotting a run for the presidency, mccain said i'd be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up to his saying t
. .. >> susan rice who wanted to be looking for opportunity to implement a responsible agent to protect scenario that would succeed. so that's a whole section again, and how to become to intervene and why was is actually a good idea. the next question of course is the one everyone is talking about is where is libya headed next. you know, i think with regards to what happened in benghazi, it is still, i think one needs to take, regardless of all the chaos that is happening, to step back, go up several thousand feet and look at this process over a much longer period of time. we are still a year into this revolution. nobody really expected -- i think many libyans expected this is going to be a shorter and more pleasant experience than it has been an urban construct with a very -- at the same time, in my trips to libya over the last two years i've seen a remarkable story of people, people of ex-patriots have come back and drop everything, lucrative jobs in europe and states to help build infrastructure. the way in which the local elections were held in benghazi in may, it was excellent glory. there'
on susan rice. it would be heart to double back on him now. >> john: somewhere scott brown is washing his truck. charles pierce, so great to have you on the program. >> thanks, john, i appreciate it. >> john: thank you, for now on what president obama hopes to accomplish in his second temperature i'm happy to be joined by current tv correspondent david shuster and eric boehlert scene fellow with media matters for america. what does he have a better chance of pushing through. >> i think he has a greater chance on gun control and charles was right. it will make the heads explode on the right and make banning assault weapons closing gun show loops holes would seem reasonable. i think that sets the president up in a pretty good negotiating position. >> john: what track record do you think he'll be willing to ruffle executive orders. >> the haguethe hagueel,the republicans made it clear they didn't want chuck hagel. the president said here is my republican. beat him up. go show america that they won't even support a republican. that showed a little bit the nerve. i think the executive order if
. >> napolitano, cabinet level position, u.n. ambassador, u.s. ambassador of the united nations susan rice. you know, again, i can go through the list. this president has appointed -- made two appointments to the supreme court. both of them women. and i think that his commitment to -- >> do you think it is unfir charge? >> i think the record speaks for itself. >> one thing, though, just have to wonder some of our -- wondered aloud why there hadn't been a second-term transition director that said hey, you are about nominate five white men in a row, do you want to come up -- do some of your other appointment first? sprinkle it in, show diversity of appointments. it just seems that the -- this has been a little bit mismanaged or hole plugging in, if you will. lot of this has to do, yes, with all of the attention on the fiscal cliff. but clearly, this all -- this part of it has been dropped to what is probably for the white house communications office an annoying story to deal with. moving on, today vice president's task force on gun violence has a full day of meetings scheduled with hunters, gun o
and susan rice opted not to pursue her candidacy for secretary of state in the face of opposition i think the president will not back down on this one and you can expect him to press very hard and ultimately i think success in the senate on confirmation. >> let me turn your attention to the debt ceiling debate which will ramp up in earnest to the extent it didn't already on sunday morning talk shows. you were made aware of analysis that indicates we will hit that debt ceiling maybe even sooner or than the treasury will have to start taking its ex record to marry steps even sooner than we thought. so what happens if we really get to the point where we go over, and what the next steps? what does the treasury do? >> very difficult choices. the treasury would have to prioritize bill paying. they could do it by the day. do it by the type of expense they are going to repay. presumably sovereign debt would be repaid first. but given the fact this is unprecedented, never happened before, you could have the president reconsidering his assertion that he could not use executive authority. the presid
you're first making to the white house. >> reporter: climate is still a factor. susan rice withdrew her name to replace hillary clinton under pressure over her actions after the benghazi attacks. >> i think the political climate matters a lot now with who you pick. it shouldn't but it does. >> reporter: and there's pressure under the president to consider diversity after a lineup that so far includes men. >> the president values diversity, believes it's important. because it enhances the quality of a pool of potential nominees for positions across the administration. but the goal in the end is to find the very best individuals for these specific positions. >> reporter: and carney insisted that the president had indeed found the best in chuck hagel, john brennan, and senator kerry and that as the president looks to fill these other positions, finding the best is what will guide him. wolf? >> the president also has an important visit with the afghan president hamid karzai. what do they hope to accomplish? >> reporter: that's right, wolf. they will have a bilateral meeting. you can alr
's payback for susan rice. what it boils down to regarding chuck hagel is he is hard on israel and he is soft on iran. nonetheless, there is great big ads on "politico"'s play book that are touting mr. hagel. as it turns out, they have done some checking into it and there is a guy who is a big funder of media matters who is doing the funding. he is a guy by the name of bill benter, a major donor to media matters, also a contributor to j. street. he gave media matters money to support the works of m.j. rosenberg who had been their foreign policy guy for awhile until last year when alan dershowitz was talking about he is an extremist and the white house has to walk away from him. m.j. was eventually fired from media matters. nonetheless media matters is producing content pushing hagel. >>brian: that's fascinating, that they get involved at this level. let's talk about a bigger story. what about miss alabama? miss alabama was the story because notre dame did not show up on the big night for monday night football so brent must -- musburger was skraoepg for anything of interesting. he found miss a
that after you fought against susan rice. and please -- >> you ask why there aren't women in the inner circle. >> and by the way, there's going to be a gun debate coming up. and if republicans take an extremist stance and instead of fighting for handguns and fighting for the right to keep and bear, you know, hunting weapons and the right to keep and bear arms, instead fight for these massive clips, these high-capacity magazine clips and assault weapons, 2014, you've put all of this stuff together, jon meacham, 2014 is going to be a rough year for the republican party. i said '12 was moving them toward wig status. if they continue to be the party of extreme ideas and extreme factions instead of the party of balanced budgets, the party of less taxes, the party of less regulation, the party of more economic freedom, then they're going to get -- seriously, they are going to move one step closer to political oblivion. >> yeah. i still think it's really important to look at the analogy of the democratic party which spent so much time in the wilderness and the -- >> '84, the san francisco democrats
. susan rice would have been secretary of state if the republicans hadn't attacked her -- >> hold on. i've been hearing that all week. i heard an interview, i was screaming at the television saying, people don't look when they're looking for the best qualified -- that is a bunch of crap. if you go to any h.r., anyone who's looking for any type of person to fill a job, they talk about everything, hair color, eye color, i need a black woman for this. we need a black man for that. and for an african-american, the first black president of the united states not to understand the optics of this is ridiculous. i think he's getting off the hook. he should have the most diverse staff of anyone ever. >> i'm with you on more diversity. if this was a republican, people on the left -- >> they would eat their lunch. it's embarrassing. >> but maybe this is because he knows this is white people's last hoorah. by 2045, white people will be in the majority. >> i know you're joking. but this has perturbed me for a long time. i think people have let the administration off the hook and they shouldn't be let
decision from president obama, but the ambassador susan rice ran into a buzz saw on capitol hill when she met with republican senators critical of her nomination. it's so common, look, if they interviewed democrats the same way, i would be all is fair in love and war, but they don't. they don't. >> andrew breitbart one of my mentors, used to say the problem with the media they pretend they're objective. look at george stephanopoulos, he's a clinton staffer. like karl rove were the real anchor on a news program. >> he run a war room. >> he was and people wonder why did george stephanopoulos suddenly bring up contraception right during the debate? he did it because that was part of the obama administration's war on women and he was-- >> and spoke ahead of time. and what mitt romney said about half the country is a spit in the face of everyday american people who know what it means to work incredibly hard and still sometimes fail to get by, these so-called victims he dismisses well, these are victims of a system that's rigged by mitt romney's backers, so they-- >> richard trumka head of the
't get policy concessions. they fiercely oppose potential picks for obama's cabinet from susan rice, of course, to people who withdrew to people who had strong gop support up until they were affiliated with president obama like chuck hagel and jack lew and republicans delayed 85% of the planned relief funding for hurricane sandy. that, of course, drew a strong rebuke from republican governor chris christie. this is not politics devoted to a competing vision. this is politics devoted to digs corruption and obstruction, and those recent fights i mentioned don't even include the explosion of minority obstruction in the u.s. senate. the filibuster has been used against more of obama's legislation than any president in history. the bottom line is that the gop is exploiting what i think is a hole in our democracy. can you lose elections and still get your way now if you don't care about responsibly governing. of course, it's hard to get voters to notice this kind of thing, but i believe obama has a big opportunity at the inauguration. he can call for more than just broad patriotism or vag
susan rice and making the hague el issue much more complicated. we have to just put a name out and rather than floating them for weeks. >> gives democrats a chance to get in there. doubly hurtful. i hope that chuck hagel is asked why he refused to designate hezbollah as a terrorist organization. >>> while we're on the topic of the president's cabinet, secretary of state hillary clinton back at work today. she was out for almost a month with a stomach bug and then fell and got a concussion and doctors discovered a blood clot in her head. there's pics of the first day back. they even gave her a football helmet with the state department logo. because, of course, washington a contact sport. we threw our picks on our facebook page and they're generating great responses. the facebook friend raz lemons says, welcome back, madame president. is your screen name raz lemons? >> toure, actually. >> let us know what you're thinking. >>> dysfunctional politics. last-minute short-term finishes. is washington turning in to brussels on the potomac? that's scary. up next, a guest weighing on ame
is? it's a joke. they lost their minds over susan rice. they're doing it again. >> here is more from senator lindsey graham. >> i'll have a hard time voting for anybody to be secretary of defense who believes that the surge was a foreign policy blunder. i'll have a hard time supporting anybody for secretary of defense who believes that the iranians are misunderstood, we should just negotiate with them, not sanction them. >> they're really focusing in on some of the things that he has said in the past, including a guy slur over a decade ago. do these things matter in confirmation? >> first of all, lindsey graham is treated with a lot of respect as some kind of national security expert. but it is quite possible to be pro-israeli and also not for a rush to war with iran. it is not incompatible. in people in israel think it's quite legitimate to not want to go to war with iran. why that has become a litmus test is not clear. chuck hagel, for being opposed to the surge, he voted for the war in iraq. so, you know, there is a lot of exaggeration going on here after all these years. after th
, now four in a row. >> it should be noted that susan rice was really president obama's probably first choice. >> so blame john mccain for these problems. >> they did push back, actually. they released a picture after the "new york times" put that picture out of all these men advising the president on the budget, and they put out another picture just yesterday of a bunch of the senior women staffers in the white house -- valerie jarrett, lissa -- nancy andrew parrell, who is a chief of staff, and number of other women. it's not true that he is surrounded by men. voo. >> there is another diversity issue that has not to do with gender or race or ethnicity, but diversity of opinion, and one of the things that i'm interested in, for example, in the treasury secretary position, jack lew, you know, this is somebody who is a safe pair of hands. it's somebody who is not going to rock the boat, and i wonder if that doesn't represent kind of the hunkering down economically in a way kind of a saying, you know, we're not going to take on any new big topics. we're going to have to be battling the s
the possible nomination of susan rice, opposition to president obama's nomination of chuck hagel is coming from both side was of the political divide. as some democrats voice concerns over hagel's positions on a wide range of issue, one of them is joining me now. democratic congressman adam schiff who has tough questions for chuck hagel. sir, great to have you with me. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee you've challenged hagel's nomination to head the pentagon. we've heard certain reasons why and they've been floated out there, but what are yours specificsly? >> i think there are two issues that senator hagel will have to address, and i think his fate is in his own hands. i think he's likely to be confirmed and it is not a slam dunk and he'll have to answer tough questions on iran, principally. he has written and said in the past that he can tolerate potentially a nuclear-powered, a nuclear-armed iran and that is certainly at odds with most of the members if not all of the members of congress. he has opposed some of the nun lateral sanctions and regime which is have been key
until our questions are answered, like who changed ambassador susan rice's talking points and deleted the references to al qaeda. my support for a delaying confirmation is not directed at mr. brennan but is an unfortunate yet necessary action to get information from this administration. the white house is trying to sell, meanwhile, back on hagel, trying to sell hagel's personal story. and no one may tell that better than his brother, tom, who served alongside him in vietnam and described to nbc how they narrowly escaped death together. >> the concussion was incredible. it knocked us both down. and he was behind me and i looked back and he was flat on his back, blood all over his chest. so i went back. things come up where he's being criticized for this or that or the other thing, or we're both having problem. we look at each other and say, you know, what can they do to you? send you back to vietnam? >> that all may be true. on the importance of this response, that the number two democrat in the senate, new york's chuck schumer, gave to "the wall street journal" when asked about hagel'
, the right that is, kind of sour the test balloon that was that of susan rice? and now they're trying to sour the test balloon that is chuck hagel. we're just a couple hours away from the fact that he will be put up for this appointment. doesn't it look funny to have the right kind of eating their young, eating their own from a position that they would like one of their own to be in? >> you know, i don't know that they're really itching for a fight here. it just seems like whenever the president floats one of these names out there we have everybody fanning out their turkey feathers, strutting around the barnyard like they have something to say about it early on. when cooler heads prevail and if we can get to a senate confirmation hearing, chuck hagel will obviously have to answer some questions that republicans are concerned about. actually, on your network this morning on "the daily rundown" with chuck todd i think dan sino did a fabulous job explaining a couple of the votes we were talking about against israel and against some of the middle eastern issues we care most about with syria. some
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